Sunday Salon: Gratitude and a Question about ARCs

 Morning! Today is supposed to be 80 degrees. I’m a fall/winter person so I’m not exactly enthusiastic about the weather. Oh well. I plan on spending most of the day indoors, doing homework and reading. I finished one book yesterday, started another one last night, and plan on reading a third book, Jeanette Winterson’s Why Be Happy When You Could Be Normal this afternoon.

I have a question. Why Be Happy won’t be in stores until Wednesday and the copy I have is an ARC. I love adding quotes to my reviews to illustrate a point or to let readers know about the language of a book. What I want to know is, do you use quotes from the unfinished copy? I usually do but I’ve been thinking about that lately. Should I start asking publishers for a finished copy or just keep using quotes from the unfinished copy?


This week I’m least grateful for:

  • The stress that my math class put me through. I’m glad that crap is over.
  • My kids’ dad. I’m glad that crap is over too.
  • Eye strain. *sigh* I can’t get on the computer for longer than a hour or two before my eyes start hurting.

This week I’m most grateful for:

  • My math class is over! Yay! Who knew that one class could make me feel so bad?
  • Music! Right now I’m listening to a ton of artists from Beyonce to Kelly Clarkson, Rebecca Ferguson to Jill Scott along with a little Young Jeezy.
  • New glasses. My eye strain is forcing me to get new glasses for the first time in more than two years.
  • My daughter’s family tree project. Every fourth grader at my kids’ school has to do a family tree project. We’re using to complete our project along with interviewing various family members. It’s been such a great experience. I even found a great-great uncle that I didn’t know existed along with my great-great-great grandfather’s World War I draft papers. We still have two more weeks until Piper’s project has to be turned in. I can’t wait to see what else we find. So far, we have seven generations of family noted.

What are your plans for today? What do you think about using unfinished ARCs for quotes in book reviews?


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25 Responses to Sunday Salon: Gratitude and a Question about ARCs

  1. If I need a quote, I’ll copy it from the ARC, but then I go on Amazon and see if I can peek in that book so I can verify that the quote I want to use hasn’t changed. Does that make sense?

  2. Wendy says:

    Well, I don’t get a ton of ARCs these days (mostly I am seeing finished copies), but when I do get an ARC, I do quote from them even though I know this is not something we are really supposed to do. I try to limit a quote to just one when I’m quoting from an ARC. The reason I do this is because I want to give readers a flavor for the author’s style and also to support my review opinion. So far, no publisher or author has ever complained to me about doing this.

  3. I like the way Nancy @ Bookfoolery and Babble does it, but I had to go back to February 4th on her blog to find an example:

    ~p. 23 of Advance Reader’s Copy: A Good American [Some changes may have been made to the final print version]

    See it for yourself, here:

    • Wendy says:

      Ah, that’s a great way to do it – thanks for sharing, Bonnie. I read her blog, but I’ve never noticed that she did that until you pointed it out – I may have to steal that idea 🙂

      • I think Nancy would be happy for us to steal this idea. The problem with relying on Amazon is that the number of pages they show is limited and may not have the particular page you have quoted. And to check what you quoted with the published version, you would have to either buy the book or take along your notes when you go to the bookstore so you could flip to the right page while in the store — a very expensive or cumbersome way of accomplishing something that is easier covered by something like Nancy’s disclaimer.

  4. Harvee says:

    I ofen use a quote and then in parentheses, add that the quote is from an uncorrected proof and may differ from the final copy. Haven’t had any concerns from the publishers re this.

  5. Ivana says:

    Hooray for finishing your math class. I still have nightmares from high school, luckily I didn’t have to deal with it in college.

    I often use quotes from ARCs, and no one ever complained either.

    Have a great Sunday!

  6. Kailana says:

    Glad some of your stress is out of the way. The family tree project sounds like a lot of fun. 🙂 Have a great Sunday!

  7. Hopefully the crap of eye strain will be over too soon. 🙂

    Rebecca Ferguson: I hadn’t heard of her before today, but she sounds like another artist I’m going to have check out that you’ve recommended (Foster the People being the last group/artist you introduced me to and I love them).

  8. I quote from the ARC but I like @bermudaonion’s idea of looking in the book at Amazon.

    I like thinking about what I’m grateful for. Saw this Shawn Acorn TED video that talks about that and really helps me feel more positive.

  9. I see others quoting from ARCs and qualifying the information with a statement about the “finished book may be different.”

    But as someone mentioned, checking Amazon and the “look inside” feature might be a way to go. If that feature is available.

    Thanks for visiting my blog, and enjoy your day.

  10. Ugh, it’s way too hot for me today! I’m hiding indoors, too.

    Yay for getting new glasses! I hope they help with the eyestrain. 😀

    Also, if I quote from an ARC I usually just mention it’s from the ARC and not the finished version. I suppose you could always go back after the book is published and double-check the ARC quote with the finished quote?

  11. Aths says:

    I do quote from ARCs, but I’ve seen some ARCs having a note upfront not to quote from unfinished copies. So far, no one has complained, but I’ve been wondering too.

    So glad that you could drop the math class! I know it has been stressing you out a bit lately.

  12. Carrie K. says:

    Yay for finishing your math class! I know it was really stressing you out. 🙂 I do quote from ARCs, but not huge sections. I also like the way Nancy does it – I’ll have to borrow that.

  13. Michelle says:

    I would go ahead and use the quotes. I know the ARCs say you are not supposed to but sometimes you don’t want to wait until the book is released nor want to go out and look at the finished copy when it is finally released. I would just make a note of it on your review.

    Glad you finished your math class! I remember that feeling of relief all too well.

  14. Jenny says:

    I’m excited about Why Be Happy — that’s just a wonderful title, and it sounds like it encapsulates the mother’s character perfectly. I haven’t loved everything I’ve ever read by Jeannette Winterson, but I do tend to love a memoir about crazy parents.

  15. Marg says:

    I always make it clear that I am quoting from an ARC and that it may change.

  16. heidenkind says:

    I just quote from it, but don’t take my advice. I’m tres unprofessional. 😉

  17. If I want to use a quote from an ARC I just send a quick email to the person who sent it to me asking if it is OK to quote, letting them know the page number of the ARC. So far I’ve never had anything change between ARC and finished copy.

  18. readerbuzz says:

    I was always happy when I completed a math class, too. Whew! Stressful!

  19. I just quote from ARCs. I know you’re not “supposed” to do it, but I’m too lazy to go through verifying the quote against the finished book.

  20. Edi says:

    I’ve gotten away from using quotes altogether, not really sure why. If I had to quote from an ARC, I would state that It could change in the final edit.

    I love and am so glad I live in a city with a state library so I can use it for free!

  21. JoAnn says:

    I rarely review ARC’s, but I note that the quote is from an ARC and changes may have been made to the final copy. Hope the eye strain improves!

  22. amymckie says:

    I’ve quoted from ARCs, I know technically we’re not supposed to but sometimes you just have to. I try to note that the quote is from a review copy though. Love that song you included, by the way, thanks! Had to immediately pick it up 🙂

    Also – sounds like you need an eye exam. I had mine yesterday and am currently trying new contacts. Can’t say how fantastic it is to seeeeee again!

  23. Trish says:

    That’s so wonderful about the family tree project! I always enjoyed those things when I was younger and would love to get into genealogy for my husband’s family. My grandmother has been doing genealogy for years and years so there aren’t too many secrets on that side, but we don’t know much about Scott’s side. Seven generations is fantastic!!

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